MAI-Thinking-1 (microsoft.ai)
101 points by LER0ever 3 hours ago | 34 comments

• Alifatisk 2 minutes ago

> MAI-Thinking-1 is built with enterprise readiness in mind. It supports long context with a 256k token window

Isn’t 1M becoming the norm?

• keeda an hour ago

> Second, clean data. MAI-Thinking-1 was trained on clean and appropriately licensed data, with AI-generated content excluded from pre-training. This matters for quality, provenance, and control. If we cannot account for what shaped a model, we cannot fully understand its behavior or credibly improve it.

Shots fired?

It would be interesting to see how far "clean data" can go on the scaling laws.

• vdfs an hour ago

I doubt any lab would say otherwise, they all _claim_ to use licensed data

• keeda 36 minutes ago

Maybe, but Microsoft, through their partnership with OpenAI, is already involved in major copyright lawsuits. That is probably a driving force for this move, actually... I doubt they would want to tempt fate while those lawsuits are on-going.

• onlyrealcuzzo an hour ago

I'm interested how much "Clean Data" is synthetic data from "unclean" models...

• bicx 23 minutes ago

So, laundered data?

• ertgbnm an hour ago

> with AI-generated content excluded from pre-training.

> without distillation from third-party models

sounds like zero unless they are lying.

• zamalek an hour ago

> with AI-generated content excluded from pre-training.

Though this is largely impossible these days, unless they pre-trained on pre-AI era data.

• xavriley an hour ago

“ We trained it from the ground up on enterprise grade, clean and commercially licensed data, without distillation from third-party models.”

• azinman2 an hour ago

aka all of GitHub OSS

• pixeldash928 2 hours ago

Looks like the OAI divergence is finally taking place. Seems like the comparisons are mainly with Opus 4.6 and GPT 5.4 though. Still, exciting to see a new frontier player.

• i_have_an_idea 41 minutes ago

Is it a frontier player though, or perhaps a new benchmaxxed model? People were saying similar things about Grok but it ultimately amounted to little.

• wasabi991011 22 minutes ago

"preferred by humans over Sonnet 4.6" makes it pretty clearly not benchmaxxed though.

At least when you define benchmaxxed as "good in benchmarks but not human preference".

• lordmauve an hour ago

We need to see DeepSWE scores. SWE Bench Pro is junk.

• BeetleB 38 minutes ago

Based on the first table, why would I pick this over GLM?

• missedthecue 17 minutes ago

Because your employer might make you exclusively use enterprise copilot.

• hartator 21 minutes ago

I like it so much when a website hijacks the way my scroll works. This is truly innovative.

• kstenerud an hour ago

They've hijacked scrolling. They've hijacked the spacebar. It flickers like crazy when I try to move through the article. Trying to get through it is an exercise in madness.

• t-sauer 41 minutes ago

I do not understand how scroll hijacking is still a thing. Who thinks this is a better experience?

• maelito 34 minutes ago

Designers.

• grassfedgeek 15 minutes ago

Even without flicker it is very distracting. Why do people think this is a good idea?

• AirMax98 an hour ago

I normally don't comment on matters of taste like this, but wow this is brutal. It's like someone threw the site in a vat of molasses.

• blisstonia 25 minutes ago

I gave up after the first scroll.

• aniceperson 40 minutes ago

there is also a gap between the header and the top of the page... they should ask the ai to make it better a few more times...

• wmf an hour ago

At least there shouldn't be any complaints about benchmaxing this time.

• i_have_an_idea 40 minutes ago

Just because it is performing rather poorly by comparison, it doesn’t mean it isn’t benchmaxxed. It can still be worse than it appears.

• wasabi991011 21 minutes ago

It isn't benchmaxxed because they are using human preference as an evaluation.

• vcryan 18 minutes ago

It really looks like they used Claude to design this webpage. I guess the color taupe it the marker of good AI today.

• Handy-Man 6 minutes ago

Inflection AI

• bossyTeacher an hour ago

7 modes launched. 5 models in the dropdown. Only 4 actually usable :(

About time Microsoft joined the fray. After the OpenAI divorce, it really looked like Microsoft was going to become another Uber.

• giancarlostoro an hour ago

They still own 27% of OpenAI, this IPO will feed them a lot of easy cash.

• simjnd 3 hours ago

Absolutely disgusting scroll jacking, even when "Accessibility mode" is turned on

• dang 2 hours ago

I'm sure most of us agree, but:

"Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

• simjnd 38 minutes ago

Forgot about this, my bad!