Frank Lloyd Wright’s first home (www.architecturaldigest.com)
57 points by NaOH 5 days ago | 31 comments

• shooker435 an hour ago

> Wright left Oak Park and separated from Tobin Wright in 1909. Before leaving, he divided the studio and the home, allowing Tobin Wright and the children to live in the studio wing and rent out the house for income. Wright sold the property in 1925 and later owners divided the building into six units and neglected to preserve the historically significant property.

This is a really generous interpretation of what happened... He ran off to Europe with one of their neighbors, and his ex-wife (not divorced yet, though!) was left high and dry with no money and was forced to turn the studio into apartments for income.

• frantathefranta an hour ago

FLW almost always gets very generous interpretations of his intentions. I've been to 5 of his houses (including this one) and I've not heard anything negative about him on the tours. I say this as someone who likes his houses a lot (and considers themselves as someone who's gotten over the "FLW is overrated" hump).

• shooker435 38 minutes ago

Agreed. I'm a huge fan of his work and have spent some time in Oak Park as well.

That being said, the most accurate/honest depiction I've seen is a 2-part series on PBS. I think it does a great job of capturing the genius alongside the troubled hubris.

• twright 4 hours ago

It never ceases to amaze me how Wright's style was so ahead of the times. A lot of people immediately think the houses are mid-50's but they're in fact 20 to 30 years earlier! If you happen to be driving through somewhere near one of the houses that are under conservancy[1] they are well worth a stop.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Frank_Lloyd_Wright_wor...

• frantathefranta an hour ago

It's really amusing when you tour something like Casa Loma[0] in Toronto (a gothic revival house) and then compare it to the Darwin Martin house[1] in Buffalo, which was built basically 10 years before. I can't imagine visiting a FLW house in the early 1900s and then building a super kitschy castle.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casa_Loma

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_D._Martin_House

• phlakaton 3 hours ago

45 years earlier in some cases. I found the Robie House in Chicago (built in 1910!) to be a total head-trip.

• leoc 43 minutes ago

Things like the Dessau Bauhaus and the German Pavilion in Barcelona were built in the 1920s. Post-war Modernism was a bit of a second wind.

• allknowingfrog 3 hours ago

Isn't Wright sort of famous for designing structures that leak when it rains? My understanding is that Falling Water House is a beautiful money pit.

• Aurornis 3 hours ago

Falling Water was an engineering disaster, but it was a unique project for him. Most of his houses are not like that.

• TremendousJudge 2 hours ago

well, it's often said that all good architecture leaks [0]

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0j0d2ymixY

• CGMthrowaway 4 hours ago

FLW created the times

• UncleOxidant 3 hours ago

There's something similar in cinema. For example, I was watching Terrance Malick's Badlands for the first time a couple of years ago and I could swear it felt like a film from the 90s or maybe early 2000s. But it was from 1973.

• Zigurd 3 hours ago

I grew up in Oak Park and I've been in the home and studio several times. It's a remarkably homey home, in contrast with Wright's reputation for art over practicality. It's also what you'd expect from a tech nerd's work at home home: it has a whole house audio system in the form of a player piano built into a central stairway.

• jameshart an hour ago

The homes architects build for themselves are fascinating studies. Walter Gropius’s house in Lincoln, Massachusetts is similarly human in scale with incredible attention to detail.

Like the Frank Lloyd Wright house in Oak Park there’s something a little underwhelming about them at first to a modern sensibility - they feel like spaces you are familiar with from modern houses (albeit often realized with greater skill than is typical - both houses make incredible use of their window perspectives for example). But then you need to recognize how far ahead of their time they were; Gropius’s aesthetic was his invention; that you can replicate it in your own home out of an ikea catalog today is because of him.

• waltbosz 2 hours ago

I live within walking distance of a Frank Lloyd Wright house. Sadly, it's a private residence and closed to the public.

• burkaman 4 hours ago

I know houses used to be cheaper but I was still struggling to understand how a 22-year-old from what doesn't sound like a very rich family could have afforded this. His foundation website says "he negotiated a five-year contract with Sullivan in exchange for the loan of the necessary money" and then "it was not long before escalating expenses tempted him into accepting independent residential commissions". I guess you really did used to be able to get whatever you wanted just by going to college and working hard.

• CGMthrowaway 3 hours ago

At age 22, FLW was specially trained, working at the equivalent of a frontier AI lab (the most important architect in Chicago) and in the most booming city at the time (Chicago, especially where construction was concerned- due to the Great Fire rebound)

He's not a random, there are a lot of factors working for him

• rconti a minute ago

> equivalent of a frontier AI lab

Except frontier AI labs basically consider the entirety of human creation, multiplied by 100, to be their total addressable market.

The most important architect in Chicago could only ever be able to capture a small fraction of a single city's architecture business.

• Aurornis 3 hours ago

The house you see in the photos is the result of years of additions and expansions, funded by his success as a world-class architect.

The original construction was much more modest in size.

• burkaman 2 hours ago

Thanks I guess I should have realized that, now it seems less insane.

• Aurornis 2 hours ago

I’m sure the original home was amazing for its size, given who was driving the construction.

• notahacker 2 hours ago

22 year olds lucky or gifted enough to be able to borrow 10x the national average earnings from a boss paying them a high enough salary to expect repayment within five years would to be able to think about buying a small house in an outer suburb of most cities today if that was their priority. Especially if they took on extra contract work.

Obviously most 22 year olds in 1890 didn't earn a few times the national average salary. At the beginning of the twentieth century 81% of households were rented, and most of those were not nearly as nice as Frank Lloyd Wright's first home, which was not nearly as nice as it is today after decades of extensions.

• fusslo 3 hours ago

It kinda seems like Sullivan being shrewd. Sullivan probably saw the value in one of his junior architects going through the whole process of building a house for himself. It'd give Wright valuable experience. Mistakes could happen to his own property rather than a client's. Having such a contract may limit the chances that Wright would leave the employer. Wrights attitude towards Sullivan would be more positive if Wright saw him as a patron.

• pfannkuchen 4 hours ago

N = 1 though.

> With money borrowed from his boss

Genius in field works for wealthy man in field, gets special treatment at a young age. News at 11.

• gedy 3 hours ago

I agree and feel same. Doubly so since after 100+ years it's now more expensive and difficult to build a custom home? Seems off.

• gabrielsroka 3 hours ago

> Wright borrowed $5,000 from one of his bosses, Louis Sullivan,[25][28][29][I] who took title to the land.[19][23] In exchange, Wright had to repay the loan within five years.[30] Excluding the land cost, Wright eventually spent $5,300, which included $1,200 from his own savings and $3,500 from Sullivan's loan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lloyd_Wright_Home_and_St...

• Aurornis 3 hours ago

That was for the original construction, which was much smaller in size. The house you see in the photos was after multiple expansions and additions as his career took off.

• intheitmines 3 hours ago

According to BLS CPI data $5000 in 1889 is $182,132.07 in modern day purchasing power

• yacthing an hour ago

No idea why he's so famed. I've been to a few of his houses and they are completely impractical to live in.

So focused on making things look good, but spent no time thinking about people actually living in the houses.

• fortran77 23 minutes ago

He wasn't even a licenced architect. He couldn't leagally sign off on drawings or incorporate as a business with the word "architect" in it, etc.

https://codygatlindesign.com/2024/09/28/why-6-of-the-worlds-...

• artisinal 4 hours ago

Built his own home at 22. Started his own firm at 26. Raised six children. Peak Gilded Age energy. Boomers have nothing on him.